The Patros Podcast
Why are younger men confused more than ever about how to be a man? Statistics on fatherlessness suggest it’s because for decades men were completely absent from their children’s lives. Join Man Up CEO, Jeff Ford, and Allan Pereira, alongside a panel of guests, as they wrestle with questions aimed at helping guys develop a healthy view of masculinity and live as godly men. If you are looking for a version of masculinity that doesn’t include the words “toxic” or “soft”, or if you simply need some encouragement and a laugh, join us . . . we’ll help you become a better man.
Episodes

14 hours ago
14 hours ago
In this special Fatherhood Month episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira sit down with Kyle Rodgers, founder of Dads Matter, performance coach, and speaker passionate about helping men gain confidence in the daily reps of fatherhood.
Kyle reminds us: Fatherhood isn’t a side hustle—it’s a legacy in motion.
This conversation is real, raw, and packed with practical wisdom for dads who want to grow in courage, clarity, and consistency.
Whether you’re trying to overcome a history of bad decisions or just looking to sharpen your approach, this episode will meet you right where you are.
You’ll hear Kyle’s thoughts on:
- Asking the right questions about who you’re becoming
- Developing the discipline fatherhood demands
- Discerning who gets to speak into your life
- Why you are the most qualified to have tough conversations with your kids
- Taking nothing off the table—including “the sex talk”
- How the Bible anchors your parenting
- Fighting for unity in your marriage through prayer, therapy, and teamwork
If you're ready to own your role as a patros—a spiritual father—this episode will challenge and encourage you to lead with intentionality and love.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth.
Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Friday Jun 06, 2025
Friday Jun 06, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira sit down with Jeff Zaugg, founder of Dad Awesome, to talk about intentional fatherhood and the challenges dads face today.
Jeff shares what he’s learned from years of encouraging dads to engage with purpose—breaking down passivity in parenting, building brotherhood, and leveraging tools like AI to stay present and connected in a distracted world.
You’ll hear practical insights on:
How to overcome passivity in parenting
The importance of focused attention
Building brotherhood and community
Using AI to support your role as a dad
Why it’s never too late to be an intentional father
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Healthy Masculinity and Fatherhood
01:37 The Heart of Dad Awesome
04:04 Celebrating Fatherhood Month
06:05 Overcoming Passivity in Parenting
10:36 The Importance of Brotherhood
18:40 Building Community and Connection
22:33 The Call to Brotherhood and Leadership
27:49 Navigating Parenting Dynamics with a Spouse
33:39 Focused Attention in a Distracted World
41:47 Leveraging AI in Parenting
49:46 Future Collaborations and Community Engagement
As a patros—a spiritual father—this episode will help you lead your family with clarity, connection, and courage.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth. Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Thursday May 29, 2025
Thursday May 29, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira sit down with Tom Onley, a Mental Health First Aid instructor committed to helping churches respond wisely to the growing mental health crisis.
Tom shares what he’s learned from working closely with churches and individuals—clarifying common misconceptions about mental health, explaining the real challenges people face, and offering practical steps for how Christians can respond with wisdom and care.
You’ll hear practical insights on:
- How the church can better understand and address mental health
- Whether Christians can take antidepressants
- What panic attacks feel like and how to respond
- Signs someone may be in crisis
- How to support others without compromising biblical truth
As a patros—a spiritual father—this episode will help you lead with greater empathy, wisdom, and biblical conviction in a world that desperately needs men willing to step into brokenness with the hope of Christ. This is your chance to be a steady presence in someone’s storm.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth. Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Sunday May 25, 2025
Sunday May 25, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira sit down with former pastor and counselor Xavier Small, who followed God’s call to earn his doctorate and launch a counseling ministry now focused on training Christian counselors.
Xavier shares how strong male mentors helped him grow up fatherless, what it means to submit to authority as a man, and how faith and mental health connect in a practical way.
He also discusses how Christians can wisely engage with psychology and medical advice without compromising their beliefs.
You’ll hear practical insights on:
- How mentoring shaped Xavier’s growth as a young man and counselor
- The challenges and blessings of submitting to authority as a Christian man
- Why submission to Christ is foundational to mental and spiritual wellness
- How to integrate biblical truth with psychological knowledge and medical advice
Whether you’re a counselor, church leader, or simply a man of God curious about the intersection of faith and mental health, this episode offers encouragement and clarity on how to live out a Christ-centered calling in today’s world.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth. Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Wednesday May 14, 2025
Wednesday May 14, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira sit down with Jenna and David Shaffer, the husband-and-wife duo behind Christian Millennial Marriages, to talk about relationships, mental health, and what it really means to glorify God in both.
Jenna, a licensed therapist, and David, her husband and ministry partner, share their personal story and the heart behind their work equipping millennial couples for Christ-centered marriages.
Together, they tackle common myths, cultural pressures, and practical challenges couples face when pursuing a biblical view of marriage.
What You’ll Learn:
- Why marriage is designed to glorify God, not just bring happiness
- The truth about the “one person will fix me” myth
- Practical ways couples can communicate and grow together
- How to protect your marriage with healthy boundaries in opposite-sex friendships
- Why effort is key to building a strong, lasting marriage
Whether you’re dating, engaged, newly married, or have been together for years, this episode will inspire you to see marriage as a lifelong opportunity to grow, love, and reflect Christ more fully.
Learn more about Jenna & David’s work at https://christianmillennialmarriages.com/
Learn more about Jenna's therapy and coaching at https://christianmillennialtherapist.com/
You can also follow them on Instagram @christianmillennialmarriages for more biblical resources on marriage, mental health, and communication.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth. Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros
Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Thursday May 08, 2025
Thursday May 08, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira sit down with mental health advocate and Cope Notes founder Johnny Crowder to kick off the Men’s Mental Health Series.
Johnny shares his powerful story of growing up with severe mental illness, finding healing through faith and therapy, and transforming his struggles into a mission to help others. From studying psychology to working in behavioral health and being in a metal band, Johnny has used every part of his journey to create real change—most notably through Cope Notes, a text-based mental health platform that sends daily support to young adults and adults across the globe.
He also opens up about how science continues to affirm God’s design for mental wellness, and why his life mission is simple: "I want to make stuff that helps people feel better."
What You’ll Learn:
Why mental health recovery is a daily process, not a one-time breakthrough
How hard experiences can shape a purposeful life
The value of faith and psychology working together in healing
Why it’s often easier to pour into others than yourself
How to start building internal health, even when your world feels broken
Learn more about Johnny and his work at johnnycrowder.com.
You can try Cope Notes for free at https://copenotes.com/.
Find Johnny's metal band (for some good pump up gym jams) called Prison. The newest song is entitled "Splitting Black." https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUPzdZMb-f-VUuL-8AgC87A
You can find Johnny on Instagram @johnnycrowderlovesyou.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth.
Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge. 👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us
Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Wednesday Apr 30, 2025
Wednesday Apr 30, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira are joined by Jason and Kylie, Raul and Atlas, and Jeff’s son Asher to reflect on the 2025 Kilimanjaro trip, which included several father-child pairs.
Together, they share powerful insights on fatherhood, intentionality, and what happens when dads carve out time to invest deeply in their kids—even in the midst of a challenging group adventure.
What You’ll Learn:
- How healthy fathering at home builds courageous, secure children
- The beauty and simplicity of modeling faith and character through everyday life
- How affirmation and presence make a lasting impact
- Why being self-aware makes you a better husband and father
- How to know if the next Kilimanjaro trip in 2027 is right for you
Don’t miss this heartfelt conversation about mentoring, mountains, and the quiet strength of a faithful dad.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth. Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Monday Apr 28, 2025
Monday Apr 28, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira are joined by Pastor Kurt Parker of Harborside Church as they continue our series, Jonah: The Reluctant Leader—a deep dive into the book of Jonah that explores biblical masculinity. This episode unpacks Jonah 4:9-11.
What You’ll Learn:
- Why embracing the role of family leader is central to biblical manhood
- What it means to live so securely in Christ that offense no longer holds power
- Practical ways to engage in political conversations with grace and conviction
- The surprising ending of Jonah—and what it reveals about God’s heart and our own
Don’t miss this honest and hope-filled conversation.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth. Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Thursday Apr 17, 2025
Thursday Apr 17, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira are joined by Pastor Chris Dotson of South Tampa Fellowship as they continue our series, Jonah: The Reluctant Leader—a deep dive into the book of Jonah that explores biblical masculinity. This episode unpacks Jonah 4:5-8.
What You’ll Learn:
- What men can do with their weakness instead of hiding it
- How addressing pain can expose the lies you’re believing and lead you into truth
- How being honest about your sin is the first step toward real freedom
- What it looks like to become a fully formed man through discipleship
Don’t miss this honest and hope-filled conversation.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth. Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.

Monday Apr 07, 2025
Monday Apr 07, 2025
In this episode of the Patros Podcast, Man Up CEO Jeff Ford and co-host Allan Pereira are joined by Pastor Ken Thompson of Bay Cities Fellowship as they continue our series, Jonah: The Reluctant Leader—a deep dive into the book of Jonah that explores biblical masculinity. This episode unpacks Jonah 4:1-4, where Jonah is wrestling with God's choices.
What You’ll Learn:
- The humanity of Scripture in Jonah's response
- God's character and the juxtaposition to who Jonah is
- The history of God's character even before Jonah and how that impacts our faith
- A blueprint we ought to follow as we walk with Jesus
Don’t miss this deep and thought-provoking conversation.
What is Patros? Patros is a one-of-a-kind discipleship tool that challenges men to confront fatherlessness by embracing God's view of masculinity.
Our latest series, "Counter Kingdom," features members of the Ohio State Football team in conversations with Christian leaders about living a counter-cultural life for Christ.
The "Man As..." video discipleship series, hosted by Kamryn Babb, brings godly men like NFL champion coach Tony Dungy and rapper/author KB together to practically discuss what it means to be a godly man.
These resources are perfect for your church, men’s Bible study, leadership team, or personal growth. Patros offers coaching tools, trauma resources, and more to help men rise to the challenge.
👉 Become a subscriber today and access these free resources at patros.us Follow us on social media: @everymanpatros Patros is a ministry of Man Up & Go.